euryleia wrote: ↑
That's Clinton's SOTU, which once again shows the limit to your rational thinking. It's worth repeating this so we can remind ourselves the troll that you are.
First you wrote this:
If I recall, there was a similar ban imposed by Clinton that was much more severe sometime in the mid 90s.
We finally got you to prove your statement and you cited 12989 as reason. Then I did a reading and pointed to USCIS's site showing how it was not what you claimed it to be: a "similar ban" to Trump's EO.
Then you wrote this:
Eury, Clinton's EO affected all immigrants and refugees from before 1996, so yes...it affected haiti
The SOTU you attached is about jobs going to illegal immigrants, which EO 12989 addressed. Trump's EO specifically stated it's about terrorists from 7 Muslim-dominated countries. The latter doesn't even affect Haiti, but that's an easy look. Nothing here is "similar" unless you are reading a conspiracy theory on how Muslim immigrants are now the new Mexicans coming to take your jobs.
My god you just can't help yourself can you! You can't argue facts, you can only do personal attacks!
Sigh, I hate to spell this out for you, instead of absorbing it you'll just dance around the issue but here goes
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- Hey Eury, it's Guantanamo
I was really hoping you'd do your homework and look up some historical information, but that's what happened. It's actually not that similar...it's MUCH WORSE as I said. Gitmo was used to detain all haiti refugees in almost permanent detention during the 90's, and the few they did let in took years because of the massive number of HIV outbreaks that occurred there. The order moved huge spending to keep them there, and it was a direct ban against an entire group of people, just like we are having now, except now it's under the threat of terrorism. Those that were not HIV positive were eventually allowed into the country, and Americans were not welcoming of it, and treated them the same way "Muslims" are treated today. The orders made it so that anyone caught would be sent to that camp for no fewer than 3 years before anything would be done for them, much more severe than anything we are seeing with Trump today, and wouldn't you know it, a judge also stepped in to fight against the ban back then too.
So yes Eury, what Clinton did greatly affected Haiti, it's painful knowing you couldn't do more than a few google searches on the topic to figure it out, but unless you can change history, you should have nothing to say about it.